Zubiri: When the stimuli do not suffice for a suitable response, man suspends, so to speak, his response and, without abandoning the stimulus, but rather conserving it, apprehends it according as it is in itself, as something de suyo, as stimulating reality. That is, he apprehends the stimulus, but not as mere stimulus: this is the radical dawn of intellection. Intellection arises precisely and formally at the moment of transcending or going beyond mere stimulus, at the moment of apprehending something real as real when pure sensing is suspended.
Ra:The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this redray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.
Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began. – 46.9
Zubiri: But neither reality nor my sensing are exhausted in these types of sentient apprehension. Above all, we must consider heat and cold; they are the primary presentation of reality as temperant. There is in addition the apprehension of reality not simply as temperant but also as affectant: sorrow and pleasure are the primary expression of that affection. Reality is temperant and affectant.
There is another mode of experience which consists, not in making a thing show us its own nature by some provocation of ours, but in the attempt to be present, so to speak, at the vision of the real achieved based on its own interiority. To be sure, the merely material reality of an atom or molecule is not viable in this form; but it is something possible and real when dealing with living realities and above all human realities. This being present is grounded upon an installation of the one experiencing in {250} the experiential; it is what I call compenetration.
The autonomization in which formalization
consists has become changed into hyperautonomization in
man, i.e., it has been changed from sign into reality. With this, the catalog of possible suitable responses to a stimulus becomes practically indeterminate.
Indeterminate, then, does not here mean indefinite, because being indefinite is a mode of determination. Indetermination means rather “un-defined”. “Un-defined” is not the same as “indefinite”. In virtue of that, the ambit of
the indeterminate is constitutively open without limits; it is open to everything else.
可以看出,Zubiri基本上是在说真正的人对物的反应是无限多种的。
Vital tone itself acquires nuances through formalization. A general feeling of well-being or malaise acquires nuances through mere formalization: a mode of feeling spiritless or full of life, spiritless in one direction but {41} not in others, a tonality of happiness, etc.—and all of this according to qualities and in degrees or diverse forms.
With this we have put the finishing touches on what I proposed at the beginning of this second part of my study, viz. the examination of the field structure of intellective knowing, i.e., the structure of the sentient logos. It is a structure determined by the real as merely actualized in sentient intellection. But as we shall see, this structure is the commencement of a progress within reality and directed toward the real qua moment of the world, understanding by ‘world’ the respective unity of the real purely and simply as real. The logos is a movement but not a progression. We are dealing with an enormous effort of intellection of what the real is, vasterat eachiteration.
To the truly balanced entity no situation would be emotionally charged.
The entity which has worked long enough with the catalyst to be able to feel the catalyst but not find it necessary to express reactions is not yet balanced but suffers no depolarization due to the transparency of its experiential continuum.
Therefore, we shall briefly iterate that to the balanced entity no situation has an emotional charge but is simply a situation like any other in which the entity may or may not observe an opportunity to be of service. The closer an entity comes to this attitude, the closer an entity is to balance.
发现Ra的这句话好像能回答我的问题:Consider, if you will, that you have no ability not to serve the Creator since all is the Creator. In your individual growth patterns appear the basic third-density choice.
You do not have merely two opposite requests for service. You will find an infinite array of contradictory requests for information, or lack of information from this source if you listen carefully to those whose voices you may hear. This is all one voice to which you resonate upon a certain frequency. This frequency determines your choice of service to the One Creator. As it happens this group’s vibratory patterns and those of Ra are compatible and enable us to speak through this instrument with your support. This is a function of free will.
No more than this can you do, for your portion of the Creator is as it is, and your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are. 这里加黑的Ra的话有点宿命论了:我人很好,你们这群坏人去自生自灭吧,而这恰恰说明了这不是普遍适用的,证明不是真相,因为真相肯定是universal的。虽然我也不知道真相是什么,但是肯定需要有universal的特质。这也是Hinton说的一个点:作为植物人的我们do as we like,完全看外界在哪里做刺激,现象界的我们do as we like的特质就是给予充足合适的刺激源,每个人都会做错事。所以将来公开接触后的爽的方式和嗨的程度是现在的我们难以想象的,所以先缴械的就先登出了?当然这是Hinton的观点,关键现在又冒出来一个Zubiri.所以可能情况有变。当然也绝对不是说做错事是心安理得的,绝对不是的。
Ra:There are other items of information allowable. However, you have not yet reached these items in your lines of questioning, and it is our belief/feeling complex that the questioner shall shape this material in such a way that your mind/body/spirit complexes shall have entry to it.
Zubiri:This conception can assume various shades of meaning depending upon one’s understanding of belief. It can be understood as a mere sentiment, so that affirming would be the expression of an intellectual sentiment. Or it can be understood not as a sentiment but as a decision of the will; thus affirming would be the expression of a volition. This was above all the idea of Descartes, for whom, as a consequence, the problem of truth is but the problem of the good of the intelligence, and falsehood would be its sin. Finally, one can understand that belief, without becoming a strict act of volition, is at least an act of admission: to affirm would be to admit something.
Zubiri: It is a direct and immediate mode, besides being instantaneous, i.e., unitary. The immediate, direct, and unitary presence of something to the intellection—this is intuition. The opposite of intuition would be a concept and discourse.
This intellective movement is that in which the logos’ own “saying” consists. Naturally I am not referring to “saying” as such but rather to what is said qua said in this saying.
另外邦联,巴夏,Ra等外星人传讯喜欢用超长超复杂的句子,但是看Zubiri这意思(虽然我也不懂,什么是saying as such和said qua said in this saying),应该是句子的最小意思单元是更本质的东西。这和推箱子的一些理念是契合的,且对理解Zubiri说的sentient intelligence和concipient intelligence的区别有帮助:即推箱子堆砌复杂度的关卡永远没有只有单个概念的关卡好玩,也更有启发性,但是这又引出了一个新问题,多个小概念组成一个有机的不可分割的概念整体,感觉同样是好玩的。但是关键就在这个不可分割上,或许这算另一个全新的概念了吧。
This system of reference leads to a sketch of what I ultimately am. For example, it might be the sketch of a certain vocation: Do I or do I not have that vocation?
For this I need to probe the insertion of this sketch
(in the foregoing example, of this vocation) into my own reality. Ultimately there is no more than a single physical probing of this insertion, viz. trying to conduct myself by intimately appropriating what has been sketched. That insertion can be positive or {257} negative.
将vocation理解为爱可以,但是这个段落貌似没有说无条件?确实,不过Zubiri说的sketch of possibilities 就是为了体验what for的,也就是说sketch的就是目的本身,也就是我们终其一生寻求的purpose在Zubiri眼里其实就是选定一个system of reference来sketch的产物,该目的就是为了自身,故可称为无条件的。
Ra : The principle behind any ritual of the white magical nature is to so configure the stimuli which reach down into the trunk of mind that this arrangement causes the generation of disciplined andpurified emotion,or love , which then may be both protection and the key to the gateway to intelligent infinity.
As in all things spiritual, the paradox is that as one is able to open oneself to the pain of going deeper within one’s emotional life, one is more and more able to see, to bear, to hold, to accept the emotions of joy, bliss and peace. For as in all of the levels and ways of understanding the one infinite Creator, the essence is always love. Consequently, the river of grief, the river of rage, all rivers whatsoever of purified emotion, lead at last into the ocean of bliss, which is the steady state of infinite love.
The creation is consciousness, and that consciousness is pure emotion, not the pure intellect. Infinite intelligence expresses itself within incarnation as deep and abiding emotion.
When we translate that reality back into your question, we say that within you lie rivers and oceans of purified emotion that constitute an archetypical world.
In other words, the Logos Itself, the one great original Thought, is a purified emotion. It is not a thought precisely . A thought is linear. An emotion is global, universal, round, three-dimensional.
Hinton: Space is the only mode by which forms can be felt as Being or as fact. Negation is a condition of forms : space is negation ; so space must be, for forms to be (as) fact. Forms felt as fact involve space felt as Being. These things are substantial, i. e. real, only as being in, or occupying, space. Space is the only way of giving substance, i. e. Being, to the forms.
感觉这里是在cue Ra的plenum:
Ra: As It decides to know Itself, It generates Itself into that plenum, full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator, which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space.
我在另一个帖子说Zubiri说需要放弃conciepient intelligence(given by the senses to the intellect),现在我明白了,这个concipient intelligence包括耶和华的国/密度世界/辩证法世界,而且放弃了concipient intelligence也不一定能够找到正确答案:sentient intelligence(given by the senses in the intellect),而这全部只是第一步。
第二步判断sentient intelligence产生的idea/concept是否是符合reality,不符合的就是non-reality且non-existence且不符合语法的,而密度世界和耶和华世界都感觉自己存在且感觉对方不存在的情况属于spectre/phantom of reality,即属于concipient intelligence情况下reality的幻影。