此处摘录自羽蛇神第五次集会：
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5.6 Questioner: It has. Thank you so much. The next question is on behalf of the channel. You previously said that you and the instrument viewed time as circular. She tried to explain her view of time to the group using a book bent cover to cover to create a circle, indicating that consciousness exists in the center, and that time or space travel was just projecting one’s consciousness to a specific page. This was very confusing to the group. Could you comment on this and try to relay the concept of space and time and or time travel?
5.6 提问者：是的。非常感谢。下一个问题是代表通灵者提出的。你之前说过你和这个器皿把时间看作是圆形的。她尝试用一本从封面到封面弯曲成圈的书，来向小组解释她对时间的看法，表示意识存在于中心，时间或空间旅行只是将一个人的意识投射到特定的页面上。这让小组感到非常困惑。你能对此评论并尝试传达空间和时间以及时间旅行的概念吗？
Quetzalcoatl: Yes. Thank you. We do enjoy this opportunity to speak to this concept which we relayed some time ago prior to our formal contact to this instrument. During a time of meditation, she mentally announced that she was open to receiving any communication from the Confederation. Thus, we answered. We found her abstract mind could understand this concept of time/space, and space/time. Thus, we relayed the image of a single point of consciousness with many lines or projections branching off in a circular or spherical type configuration. The points, projections, pages, lines of that which was, is, branching from the point of consciousness, representing the time/space, space/time as we understand it. The explanation of the instrument, we found only to be lacking in that the book utilized was not spherical. We will emphasize the basic concept.
羽蛇神：是的。谢谢你。我们非常乐意借此机会解释这个概念，这是我们在与这个器皿正式联系之前的一段时间传达的。在一次冥想期间，她在心中宣布她愿意接收来自星际邦联的任何通信。因此，我们回应了。我们发现她的抽象心智能够理解时间/空间和空间/时间的概念。因此，我们传达了图像：一个意识点，许多线或投影从中分支出来，形成一个圆形或球形的配置。这些点、投影、页面、线条代表了从意识点分支出的过去、现在，代表了我们理解的时间/空间和空间/时间。我们发现器皿的解释中，所缺之处是她使用是书而不是球形的。我们会着重解释这个基本概念。
What is the true nature of reality, of experience? All is here. All is now. The here and now is eternal, is your eternal point of presence. Thus, we invite you to envision yourself as a point, as an existence of consciousness. This consciousness exists here and now, always. This consciousness may travel or project its awareness to certain destinations in time/space. Time and space are the same. When viewed as a sphere of different locations, one could project their consciousness to. One can see how these are the same, and it is only in the third density illusion that they appear to be different and unrelated.
实相的真正本质是什么，体验的本质是什么？一切都在此间、此刻。此间与此刻是永恒的，是你永恒临在之处。因此，我们邀请你将自己设想为一个点，一个意识的存在。这个意识存在于此间与此刻，永远如此。这个意识可以在时间/空间中旅行，或投射其意识到特定的时间/空间。时间与空间是一回事。当被看作一个不同位置的球体时，一个人可以将他们的意识投射到这些位置。可以看到它们（时间与空间）是一回事，只有在第三密度幻象中，它们才看起来是不同且不相关的。
We find this is an immensely challenging concept to relay. However, using this model during time of meditation and releasing the learned constraints of the laws of physics and possibilities of this world, one may be able to experience this diagram we have illustrated and thus more deeply understand or truly, remember, the true nature of space/time, time/space. The concept of time travel is the focused, purposeful projection of one’s awareness or portion of consciousness to a location in time/space, space/time. This is the true nature of time and space travel. We will attempt an exercise to elaborate on how most members of the Confederation in the upper densities travel.
我们发现要传达这个概念是极具挑战性的。然而，在冥想期间使用（上述）这种模型，同时释放掉（你们）对物理定律和这个世界可能性的固有认知，人们可能会体验到我们所描述的这个图例，从而更深入地理解或真正忆起：空间/时间、时间/空间的真正本质。时间旅行的概念是将一个人的意识或部分意识集中、有目的地投射到时间/空间、空间/时间中的某个位置。这就是时间和空间旅行的真正本质。我们将尝试一个练习，以阐述星际邦联中大多数较高密度成员的旅行方式。
Picture in your mind, your point of consciousness. It is here. It is now. You view these points all around you, this sphere of dots all around you. You recognize a dot, which is the location of planet Earth in the year 1992. You project your consciousness, your awareness, to this time/space, location. You desire to appear in a shape of a pyramid, let us say, a golden pyramid. You desire to have your awareness placed in the skies above, let us say, the United States. Thus, you have traveled by thought-form to the skies above the United States in this year [1992]. However, you are truly always here, always now.
在你的心中描绘你的意识点。它在此间。它在此刻。你看到这些点围绕着你，这个点的球体围绕着你。你认出一个点，这是1992年地球的位置。你将你的意识，你的觉知投射到这个时间/空间位置。你希望以金字塔的形状出现，比方说，一个金色的金字塔。你希望你的意识放置在美国上空。于是，你通过思想-形态旅行到了1992年美国上空。然而，你实际上总是在此间，总是在此刻。
另外，Ra曾提在[52.2-4]中提到（https://yidefaze.org/s52/）：
[52.2]……因此，使用科技来操纵自我外面的(环境) 与 通过心/身/灵复合体之修炼来获得自我在小宇宙和大宇宙之中的完整知识，两者相比较，前者对于个人演化的帮助远远少于后者的功效。……
52.4 发问者：那么我假设比较正面导向的社会记忆复合体有较高比率的成员使用人格修炼来旅行。这是否正确?
Ra：我是Ra。这是正确的。当正面第五密度移向第六密度之后，几乎没有实体会再去使用外部的科技来达成旅行或通讯。