Ra在时间之外,为何还需要用时间来衡量他们的进展?[14.19]

嗯,说明你还是好好看了一点的:rofl:我是根本没看

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让我相信一个灵性信息来源的最基本的要求就是他没有逻辑漏洞不会自我矛盾

所以我不会认为拉说的话前后不符而是会看是否是翻译的问题或自己无法理解

开始看一个新的信息我会带着审视,但一旦相信一个信息来源我会非常信任

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没关系,拉时常说看你有兴趣的部分信你想信的部分就够了:joy:

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是的,所以我跳的蛮多的

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额,我发现Q’uo的这段话或许能稍微阐明一些:

Each density beyond your own third density has both the space/time and time/space qualities. It is the time/space quality within each density that allows the entities of each density to be able to connect in a more fully functioning fashion with the One Creator to achieve a unity which allows an overview of time and space and the purpose of the entity moving through time and space so that when there is the desire to enter into the space/time realms, then there is more of a, shall we say, solidity or practicality or usability of the density that is then made available to the entity to pursue its learning and its service.
This allows the inter mixing or intermingling of that which is closer to the Creator, and that which is seemingly not as close to the Creator, a condition which allows learning to occur; for if all entities knew, without a single doubt of any kind whatsoever, that unity with all was their true nature, there would be little motivation to move forward in the learning process. Thus is the value of the space/time portion of each density.
The seventh density, however, is the density that those of Ra have called the “density of foreverness.” Within this density there is the movement back to unity with the Creator and there is only the time/space quality within the seventh density.

概括一下就是第三到第六密度都是同时拥有时间/空间和空间/时间属性的,而第七密度只有时间/空间属性。所以Ra说他在时间之外肯定不是指的第六密度的time/space。另外Ra说过" We are not a part of time, and thus are able to be with you in any of your times.“以及说过"by one such as we who view the time/space from a dimension, shall we say, exterior to it”,所以我觉得Ra说他在时间之外大概率指的是三密度的time/space和space/time(因为每个密度的每个实体都是处于永恒的现在这个时点的,也就是说仍然可以说在时间之内),另外第四密度的Hatonn也说过和Ra一样的话:But let it be known that we are with you at all times.

另外我觉得只要有Transformation就有一个先后状态,而Ra说过他们还在赞颂造物者给予的每次Transformation。

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嗯,我也觉得它说的时间之外指第三密度的时间。不过我之前是不确定每个密度都一定会有自己的时间/空间连续体的,谢谢指出来

补充俩情况促进思辨:
1在修炼中从内在次元突破7次元的话,同时也从时空相解脱, 比如八地菩萨或更高层次,佛等境界. 这很大程度上是ra集群早已掌握的.

2第六密度后期 确实仍旧有空间/时间 位面,以及时间/空间 位面, 但是晚期的第六密度实体可以在时间中更大自由地移动.

“时空失去意义"和"不属于时间”,都可以不受线性时空限制, 但有些区别.

比如, 你的高我,目前就无时不刻地可以回应,协助你自己, 它位于第六密度的某个阶段. 无论你定义它在时空中 或在时空外, 这个自由地移动到它自己"以前3密度的时候" 的状况是一个不受限的例子

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关于时间的一些个人看法。首先时间是不存在的,时间的概念内嵌于造物韵律化的运动。由于不同密度振动运动的性质特征等,对于时间的感知而变得相当不同。

在第三密度的时间/空间部分,感知也与空间/时间部分不同。在第五密度之后,似乎就已经打破了投生的限制,因此,当位于第六密度的Ra谈到时间的时候,它们似乎可以总是感知在当下之中,能够与广大造物同在,又由于真实同时性的本质,Ra可以在任何时间与我们同在。

这或许比在相对性中谈论时间要不容易绕进去。:heart:

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